July 27, 2010

Episode 151: William Marston was a Pimp

THOOM! and T-Mafia kick it after their weekly Howard The Duck Debate.

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20 comments:

Courtney said...

You're really into the Tarantino music lately aren't you Tim?
The man has great taste.

TGWTG is a fantastic site, I like alot of the people on there.
Linkara is only a little older than me actually.

I wonder why I went offline? Depending on the time it may have been too late at night for me to talk anyway.

Red Letter Media is the greatest thing to grace the Internet. It is a professional production in as much as TGWTG is considered professional. I mean everyone can be someone on the Internet.
He has his own website which he profits from.

'How can it be good? It's written by Neil Gaiman.'

YOUDIRTYNIGGERIFUCKINGKILLYOUKILLYOUDEAD!
...I, I'm sorry I don't know where that came from.

You have to be the only person on the face of the earth who does not like Neil Gaiman. He is constantly compared to Alan Moore. And that's not something anyone does lightly.

He is one of the few writers I know who are constantly and consistantly good.

I even collect the individual issues of Marvel 1602.
I suggest you try and read one of his novels.
Neverwhere, Anansi Boys, Interworlds, The Graveyard Book and Coraline just to name a few are all imaginative and deeply immersive stories.
I'm not particularly a fan of the movies based on his work as I believe such is the power of his words that nothing in the real world could possibley replicate it.
Although Mirrormask comes close as it is directed by Sandman artist Dave McKean.

Coraline is a horrible film that completely abandons what the novel was.
I can't even put it into words,
but to me the book was this quiet, claustrophobic story that was so grounded in reality in the first few chapters.
I mean it perfectly captures the monotony of suburban life. And then suddenly we are taken into this amazing fantasy world that seems so much better. Only to have it slowly turn maleficent, almost inperceivabley at first and then it becomes this very real and inescapable threat.
Every Gaiman book is like some beautiful surreal dream.

Despite my unexpected and somewhat racist nerd-rage outburst up there I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion. But I highly recommend you give Gaiman a proper chance, you won't be disappointed.
Unless you're just not the kind of person who likes to read, then there's nothing I can do about that.


Have you both finished reading Long Halloween?

Vichus Smith said...

I don't get the hate of Seth Rogen. Especially in the Green Hornet trailer, because it's not like he's being his typical fat stoner self.

I don't think there was one film with Lucy Liu in it where I was drooling for her, but she's definitely cute. Liu

Of course Tim would only like the issue where Sandman appears as a black guy. My favorite issue of Sandman was when they had the serial killer convention. Great stuff.

T Mafia said...

I'll praise the TGWTG crew the day they feature anything half as inspired/terrifying as the Red Letter Media talking pizza roll.

I feel pretty safe assuming that not just Tim, but anyone who actually liked the Jonah Hex movie(!) probably isn't gonna be a big Neil Gaiman fan.

By your own admission, you only made it through the first five minutes of Coraline; that doesn't count as you having seen the movie, really!

As far the idea of everyone being entitled to their opinion, I think we can make an exception when it comes to Twilight fans.

And I finished Long Halloween whatever week we taped this (hence my "Oh, this shit just won't end!" reaction to it); knowing Tim though, he'll only get around to reading the issue we're reviewing about ten minutes before we record.

T Mafia said...

Okay, all that was pretty much me responding to Courtney's comment, but since Vichus snuck a comment in there while I was typing all that:

I don't get why the likes of Seth Rogen get work when there are so many real actors in Hollywood who can't find a job.

It probably doesn't say much for Liu that I know she was a topless pole dancer in some movie or other, but I can't for the life of me remember what film it was.

Tim's gotta just be pretending not to like Sandman to come off as "cool". Lemme try: "The Beatles? Oh, they were competent I suppose...I mean, I can see why (derisive snort) some people like them, but I much prefer (insert name of band no one's heard of here). Why, if they'd ever recorded an album..."

Vichus Smith said...

If you're a good actor, you're going to be found somewhere. I don't buy into Seth Rogen stealing someone else's spot. I do think Zack Galifinakis should be higher up on the food chain, though.

BTW, count me as one of the people who enjoys at least some of the TGWTG shows. Angry Joe, GameFap and Benzaie, Spoonie, whatever the hell the name of the anime girl is on there; I basically like whoever just doesn't do a dull imitation of TGWTG.

I guess I have to credit Tim with getting me to finally visit that site, although I did hear about it before that. Now all I have to do is start listening to Keith & the Girl and I'll be a fucking Tim drone.

Courtney said...

Seth Rogen is a funny guy, I'll give him that. But he belongs behind the counter of a comic book store not on the movie screen!

I like Green Hornet, he's kind of like the Spirit. But they got the ugliest, fattest guy in Hollywood to play him. I can't stop looking at his teeth!
You may have noticed that all other superheroes are really hot. There's a reason behind that.
I'm not going to sit through a movie looking a him, the story looks terrible anyway. But if the lead was someone attractive I could see myself tolerating it just for that.
Like Smallville, the only reason I continued watching it week after week because goddamn were Lex and Clark pretty.
Oh an Iron Man 2, without RDJ I couldn't have cared less.

Vichus Smith said...

The dude lost weight. Did you see the trailer? Yeah, all superheroes are hot (except for Spawn, who was hot in another life). Are you saying the reason behind 5that is that male comic book readers are gay and that's for them to jerk off to? Is that what you're getting at?

I liked Coraline. It's probably because I DIDN'T READ THE FUCKING BOOK AND THINK THAT COMPARING THE TWO CONSTITUTES A MOVIE REVIEW.

THOOM said...

Courtney, I don't appreciate you calling me a "nigger". I know JD does it, but hey, it's a black thing.
It's not okay for white people to be calling black folks the "N" word.

Not only is JD black, but, I've known JD 20 years. It's like members of a family calling each other names busting each other's balls, but if someone comes from the outside the family calling your brother these names, it's not cool.

Courtney said...

Pay no attention to that, it was a combination of wine, lack of sleep and the monthly visitor.
I'm suprised I didn't do worse, hell I didn't even make any spelling errors.

Here's the full Thor trailer from San Diego Comic Con:
http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/2188265.html?#cutid1

The trailer itself is dull, cliched and poorly edited. Looks like it was rushed.
But the content itself looks promising.

What I find weird though is that there is one asian guy and one black guy in Asgard. I don't think vikings had ever come across anyone who wasn't white so why would their gods be anything other than aryan?

Vichus Smith said...

The Asian guy is a Marvel creation. The black guy, well, we'll see what they do with that.

Tim is a dirty nigger. Ain't hypocrisy grand?

I can't sign in here with wordpress, and its bugging me. Blogger sucks.

XantesFire said...

Thoom probably doesn't like Neil Gaiman because K misunderstood and thought it was his sexual preference and convince Thoom not to like him.

Long Halloween was just that, long. I don't know why fans would like it. It shows Batman is such a poor detective that it takes him a whole year to solve a crime. 60's TV Batman would have solved it the next Bat-day.

Lui is topless in Flypaper

I sorta like the Beattles, but they are so 60's, so I don't get their still strong appeal. Course I'm twisted, my faves are groups like Apollo 440 and The Great Luke Ski.

Smallville, so you're into the Clex.

Seriously, why is he a great writer? Cujo about a rabid dog and The Stand, great characters and beginnings but then to bring about a prophecy for good to win they just had to show up? It made it all meaningless.

Courtney said...

I've got to be honest, Long Halloween wasn't the best choice. The Batman/Hellboy crossover was cool and Arkham Asylum. Oh well, it's too late now.

THOOM said...

>>Tim is a dirty nigger. Ain't hypocrisy grand?>>

Why would write that when I made it clear that I don't appreciate WHITE people calling me the "N" word. And you're the "whitest kid i know".

Vichus, as I said, I've known JD a long time. I don't know u, negro. And to be honest, I don't really appreciate it when JD uses that word.

>>Thoom probably doesn't like Neil Gaiman because K misunderstood and thought it was his sexual preference and convince Thoom not to like him.>>

???? In your zeal to dis "K", (is that your pet name for him?) You bomb, once again.

>>Long Halloween was just that, long. I don't know why fans would like it. It shows Batman is such a poor detective that it takes him a whole year to solve a crime.>>

Xantes has an opinion that makes sense? Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

I can't believe that Long Halloween is one of the stories that people use to defend Jeph Loeb as a decent writer when presented with the evidence of the triteness of Superman/Batman, and general awfulness of shit like Onslaught:Reborn, Ultimates 3 and the Fall of the Hulks.

Courtney, I have yet to read the last predictable issue of Halloween, but I am basically ready to go.

Thoom said...

>>Tim is a dirty nigger. Ain't hypocrisy grand?>>

Why would you write that when I made it clear that I don't appreciate WHITE people using the "N" word. And you're the "whitest kid i know".

Vichus, as I said, I've known JD a long time. I don't know u, negro. And to be honest, I don't really appreciate it when JD uses that word.

>>Thoom probably doesn't like Neil Gaiman because K misunderstood and thought it was his sexual preference and convince Thoom not to like him.>>

Huh? In your zeal to dis "K", (is that your pet name for him?) You bomb, once again.

>>Long Halloween was just that, long. I don't know why fans would like it. It shows Batman is such a poor detective that it takes him a whole year to solve a crime.>>

Xantes has an opinion that makes sense? Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

I can't believe that Long Halloween is one of the stories that people use to defend Jeph Loeb as a decent writer when presented with the evidence of the triteness of Superman/Batman, and general awfulness of shit like Onslaught:Reborn, Ultimates 3 and the Fall of the Hulks.

Courtney, I have yet to read the last predictable issue of Halloween, but I am basically ready to go.

That is, Courtney, if you still want to work with a "dirty nigger"...smh.

Oh, yeah: Neil Gaiman's work is a pretentious.

XantesFire said...

Hey, when have I ever said anything remotely anti-Semitic?

I use "K", so I have room for plausible deniability.

Long Halloween, predictable ending? By the time it ended I could only predict I was glad that it did. No wonder Sam Loeb killed himself.

For Batman, I'm surprised you didn't pick a JLA story, like Rock of Ages, or New World Order.

Vichus Smith said...

I'm lighter skinned, Tim, but between you and me, you're pretty "white" Even if I was whiter, you have your whitness recorded for all to hear.

T Mafia said...

I don't really appreciate it when JD uses that word.

Speaking of JD, it's worth pointing out that not only does he liberally use "that word" himself, but practically begged Courtney to direct it at him personally!

XantesFire said...

I don't really appreciate it when JD uses that word.

______, please. You know you use it everyday of your life, there are a few episodes where if JD is using ______, you start using it too. You're just trying to show whoever, that was a long time ago who called you out on your usage of ______, that you can have a conversation without using it. And I'm sure there's some self-editing being done, too.

Vichus Smith said...

Well, the diff between Timmy Thoom and JD is like Huey and Riley on the boondocks. Plus I bet JD loves all sorts of dirty talk

XantesFire said...

I would say it's more like the difference between Granddad and Riley.