April 26, 2009

Episode 77: It's Amazin'...That This Garbage Was Even Published

13 comments:

XantesFire said...

Dude, you should have done this comic with me. I loved "Mazing Man."

Thoom said...

Darnit. Actually I just purchased 'Mazing Man #1 and am going to review it, Because it has some bewildering shit in it, too. So let's do it. I have this wednesday off, as well this Sunday.

Are you still healing from surgery?

XantesFire said...

Wednesday'll be okay. I'm healed, I just been lazy. Do you know where I can get a copy of Mazing man? Otherwise, I'm gonna spend a couple of hours finding it.

XantesFire said...

I like that Peta wants to make sure animals are treated humanly as possible but hands off my burger. I don't want my food to know fear at the end of their life, if only they could be orgasmed to death.

Addicted To love is a great song, video is a little funny, at times the girls aren't in sync and there's a part near the end that the 2 guitar girls bump hard cause the one in the back is a bit over enthusiastic.

Manic Monday was a Prince song? That seems queer.

It's set in a somewhat DC universe, so I at first figured Denton an evolved dog. But later when he panics because he thinks there was a fire, sort of implied that he might be a fire victim. I forget if they outright say it on a later issue or just imply it in other ways.

I don't get why you expect this to be bladder leaking funny. As far as I understood it was showing ordinary people just being and their interaction with an unusal but very caring man.

Stereotype? You didn't know any Guidos? I lived in Brooklyn all my life. In the 80's, there were Guidos here. There still be Guidos here, today.

K.P smokes because she has bad habits, not cause it's funny.

Wait, what don't you get? Haven't you worked for a boss you don't respect and/or liked?

If you're comparing 'Mazing Man to Alf then you definitely don't get it. Alf was about a self centered alien who at times didn't understand consequences. 'Mazing Man was about a man who cared so much it made him crazy and that the only way he could function was to become a superhero. Because to him, superheroes don't fail.

You really don't get 'Mazing Man, if the editor wasn't just kidding, 'Mazing Man would have been the anchor to Superboy-Prime. His stablizer, helping him to be the best he could be. He would have taught him the value of all life. The preciousness of the mundane.

Thoom said...

>>I at first figured Denton an evolved dog. But later ...implied that he might be a fire victim. I forget if they outright say it on a later issue or just imply it in other ways.>>

That's fucked up. So Denton was a regular guy, then he was burned so badly, they had to perform surgery on his face and the closest they could get to what he was before was to make him look like a dog? Those droopy dog ears are flaps of burnt flesh?, The "brown" skin is charred skin? Bob Rozakis is sick.
But at least you can say there is something interesting about this comic book.

>>I don't get why you expect this to be bladder leaking funny.>>

Because it's a funnybook...with a clownish lead character and a dog boy. It is rife with sitcom humor, and is attempting to be funny, what with all the lame slapstick humor.

>>As far as I understood it was showing ordinary people just being>>

Ordinary people 'just being'? Again, 1)dog boy, 2)insane man wearing a superhero costume with boxers shorts on the outside, 3)an idiot goomba stereotype who is obsessed with himself and cars and humiliating his 'friends'.

Yeah, ordinary people.

That's .B.S.The writer was going for comedy, and missed his target.

You know, I was going to name a bunch of shows and comics about "people just being" that weren't going for comedy to find a comparison. Any show about nothing but people "just being" were all comedies:

Seinfeld
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Designing Women
Northern Exposure
The Office
For Better of For Worse (comic strip)

There is no scripted show or work of fiction about "ordinary people just being that wasn't trying to go for comedy at least some of the time.

>>and their interaction with an unusal but very caring man.>>

Caring. I'll put that aside for a second.

>>Stereotype? You didn't know any Guidos? I lived in Brooklyn all my life. In the 80's, there were Guidos here. There still be Guidos here, today.>>

That doesn't make it good material for this comic.

>>Wait, what don't you get? Haven't you worked for a boss you don't respect and/or liked?>>

See Above Response.

>>'Mazing Man was about a man who cared so much it made him crazy and that the only way he could function was to become a superhero. Because to him, superheroes don't fail.>>

"cared so much". That's Two.

>>You really don't get 'Mazing Man, if the editor wasn't just kidding, 'Mazing Man would have been the anchor to Superboy-Prime. His stablizer, helping him to be the best he could be. He would have taught him the value of all life.>>

How can MM be a stabilizing force for anyone, when he, himself, is a fucking nut? Especially someone as unstable as Prime.

Anchor, stabilizer, "cared so much", "caring man". That's four. how the FUCK can you start doling out this mush about sentimental characters and noble intentions by a writer, when you show yourself to be the most callous, compassion-smashing, empathizing with kid-fuckering, bitch grabbing, prone to violence, crass, cynical motherfucker on the internet

>>The preciousness of the mundane.>>

The mundane part was certainly there.

XantesFire said...

I didn't say it wasn't suppose to be funny, but you want Eddie Murphy's Raw. This is more like roll your eyes or smirk funny.

Guidos are ordinary in Brooklyn, especially in the 90's.

Not liking your boss or respecting him makes it not good material for comics? It's showing the ordinary. Actually maybe she likes and respect her boss very much, she just criticizes him in her head that instant for that incident. Like you haven't done that before.

Sure he's crazy, about 1 out 10 people you see everyday is crazy but functionable. And almost everyone has problems. How is Maze crazy? Like I said he crazy that he wants to help everyone so much, not Joker crazy where he wants to kill, so why couldn't he be a stabilizing force to Superboy-Prime?

Hey, I'm crass, I am definitely cynical, but where do you get I'm violent and callous? And the kid-fucking and bitch slapping, that's about individual freedoms. Something as an American I support. Or atleast think it's debatable.

Mundane, yes it is and you miss the point.

T Mafia said...

re: I asked T-Mafia to send you a copy of Mazin' Man #1

Sent it to him. And I'm with Xantes on this one. It's a shame all the little Wolverine fans out there back in the day apparently couldn't appreciate something this charming.

Also, as an American, I support our Constitutional right to slap some bitch around as we're fucking her underaged snatch.

XantesFire said...

Got it, thanks. I've gone thru about 25 long boxes and I can't find it, yet. Can't find my old semi-informative listing. Not sure if I can get thru the rest of my boxes. I gotta sell/give away alot of my collection. Too much. I keep getting sidetracked, I keep finding stuff I've missed so much. I found Sonic Disruptors, I still don't get why people thought it was bad, okay, maybe the artwork, at times you can tell when the artist rush some pages.

Yeah, I don't get why Tim can't get 'Mazing Man, Frank Miller liked it. Maybe if we found out John Byrne or Keith liked it it would be an automatic must read for Tim.

Thoom said...

>>> And I'm with Xantes on this one. It's a shame all the little Wolverine fans out there back in the day apparently couldn't appreciate something this charming.>>

So it's either A)you liked Mundane Man or B)you're a superhero zombie. Wow. Even T-Mafia resorts to GW Bush style rhetoric when it suits him.

You are giving 'Mazing Man points for it's intentions. And you know what they say about intentions.

This Bob Rozakis may have been going for the interesting and the humorous in the trials of an average day in Ozone park. Like the good parts of times hanging out with friends, family or an interesting but mostly average day at work. He couldn't capture the good genuine and funny moments. He only gets the jokes that bombed in the boardroom, the awkward moments with your parents and the boring in-between hours and moments.

I can see Rozakis sweating his balls off behind the scenes, grabbing ropes and pulleys, switching on stage lights, fumbling with the sound board.

"(gasp, pant) These are average everyday talking dogs, delusional psychotics and embarrassing racial stereotypes, and they wil say something inciteful and witty--NOW!" (pushes button, nothing happens.)(Sweat sweat trip)

Meanwhile, Norman Lear and Robert Altman pull off the same thing, seemingly without breaking a sweat. (R.I.P. Maude)

Thoom said...

PS every one liner, slap stick moment, "comic" punch, whine and yell, every " development
in the Mazing Man stories I've reas, I've seen before. In BAD sitcoms.

Contrary to what XantesFire is saying I "get" exactly what he was going for. That is why the stories I've read at least, were so dissapointing, because Rozakis fell very short of the mark. He barely even tried.

The art is good though.

XantesFire said...

I didn't think that the "Wolverine fans" statement was an "either or" choice. I was a Wolverine fan at the same time I was a 'Mazing Man fan.

I don't get what you're saying about intentions. What intentions is "Mazing Man trying to make?

I don't know why you're having a hard time with this comic. Reading it I can hear kids playing, traffic, people talking, I smell leaves and grass, sun heated pavement, bakeries, car exhaust, smells of a neighborhood.

Dude, what is it with you and old people genitals? I don't want to see Bea Arthur's shakers and I don't want to see Rozakis' balls. Please keep those fantasies to yourself.

Norman Lear? seriously this Bea Arthur obsession of yours is getting scary.

Just cause something happens similar to "bad sitcom" doesn't mean it doesn't happen in real life. Or that that's suppose to be the point.

Thoom said...

>>I don't get what you're saying about intentions. What intentions is "Mazing Man trying to make?>>

The writer intended for the stories to be funny, insightful, but failed and DC killed a bunch of trees for nothing. THe result is a depressing look and the banality of life. Look at the minds it appeals to: You and T-Mafia. 'Nuff Said.

>>>Reading it I can hear kids playing, traffic, people talking, I smell leaves and grass, sun heated pavement, bakeries, car exhaust, smells of a neighborhood.>>

Thanks to the artist. DeStefano manages to salvage something from this mess.

>>Dude, what is it with you and old people genitals? I don't want to see Bea Arthur's shakers and I don't want to see Rozakis' balls. Please keep those fantasies to yourself.>>

Streeeetchin' for a joke.

>>Norman Lear? seriously this Bea Arthur obsession of yours is getting scary.>>

Yeah, Norman Lear. All in the Family vs. 'Mazing Man. Archie Bunker wins.

>>Just cause something happens similar to "bad sitcom" doesn't mean it doesn't happen in real life. Or that that's suppose to be the point.>>

If EVERYTHING that happens in the comics only happens in bad sitcoms, that makes the comic bad,

XantesFire said...

No, it's not as funny to you as you want it.

Sure the artwork gives the feel of it and so does the story telling in it's non-rushed and mundane way.

I'm not mentioning "All in the Family, I'm talking about your obsession with Bea Arthur, Norman Lear as you must know did "Maude." Probably in more ways than... ewwww...never mind.

Nope, I'm talking about stuff happening in real life, happening in comics which you label, "bad sitcom."

Oh, yeah and if such a comic book appeals to minds like TCM, Frank Miller and myself as charming, can it really be bad.