September 17, 2010

Episode 172: "Oh...Science...Why?"

THOOM! and Courtney review Fantastic Four #67 (Marvel, 2005)

31 comments:

XantesFire said...

Short Circuit was fun, plus it was an interesting thought experiment on what makes a thing alive.

Police Academy movies are not.

A European royal wouldn't start a war over jealousy? They've had wars because one leader wasn't considered the other equal in status. Wars over the right to sell drugs and fishing rights. War over a petty duke getting assassinated. They would duel because one looked at other one's woman or didn't bow, or not enough wine. The civilized European royal is a twat. Doom hating and fighting Richards over a math problem. Very twaty.

Doom risk all for his loved ones, he loved his mom and would fight once a year against hell for her soul. Why would he kill Valeria for leather armor?

Science is a systematic enterprise involved in the creation of knowledge that is testable.

Magic is the claimed art of altering things either by supernatural means or through knowledge of occult natural laws unknown to science.

Magic does not seem to work in our universe, but it does in the Marvel Universe. Therefore Reed Richards should at the very least be able to perform simple spells since it is quite testable in the MU. It's not magic thinking there it's an actual science.

Courtney said...

I forgot about this picture. Dr.Doom is pretty:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/39876/1342115-secret_wars_011_01.jpg

THOOM said...

Why would he kill Valeria for leather armor?

He wouldn't. But he would kill her for unlimited power to destroy his enemies. The nether demons just threw the armor into the deal.

Courtney said...

This just pisses me off, how does someone like this get so popular on DeviantART?:
http://mimikayuko.deviantart.com/
She's only been a member two years, can't even spell and the art looks like the product of an eight-year-old using MS Paint and yet she has more pageviews, more favourites and a hell of alot more comments than I do.

To top it all off the bitch stole some of my artwork!

Sometimes I hate DA, but it's really the only place to display art.

Vichus Smith said...

Hey, hey, hey, it's Tim Terrell! Oh, I will not stop laughing any time soon. What a gem!

XantesFire said...

Actually I changed my mind. I was reading some guy's history of Valeria and he did point out she betrayed and rejected him a couple of times and also reminded me of the "What if.. Dr Doom had become a Hero" story. Where Doom accepts Richards pointing out the errors, becomes friends with him and leads a more benevolent life, but when faced with the choice of being sent to hell or Valeria, his wife, he chooses her to go. It's all Eastern European twaty.

T Mafia said...

...but when faced with the choice of being sent to hell or Valeria, his wife, he chooses her to go.

One of the best Doom scenes ever!

"The world...must not...be deprived...of DOOM!"

vichussmith said...

In the "What If?", he's still called Dr. Doom? Some change in character.

Courtney said...

"The world...must not...be deprived...of DOOM!"

I second that!

vichussmith said...

This is courtesy of Tom Katers:

http://twitpic.com/2saa4v

XantesFire said...

So if you think that is one of the best scenes ever, then does that mean you accept that Doom would hand Valeria over to be tortured by demons so he can improve the world the Doom way?

Keith (Manticore) Knudsen said...

Nah, screw that. Sorry you got inconvenienced when you were illegally downloading pirated shit and couldn't find the right one to steal.
Look it up at some online site and buy it or go to a comic shop and buy it. Youth today are taught it's okay to steal. Bull. Shit. In my day, you'd get arrested for stealing. Nowadays they don't care because they don't have consequences.

vichussmith said...

Keith, I will tell you what I was recently told by someone who is a good study of copyright law. torrenting and downloading scans is not theivery: it's pirating and/or copyright infringement.

"In my day-" in our day there was no internet to instantly talk to people in Australia about their downloading comics for free. In our day technology could not afford us any other choice, so we can look better than kids today in comparison because there were little or no other sources of getting our media.

Keith (Manticore) Knudsen said...

That's a fair cop, Vichus.

T Mafia said...

...does that mean you accept that Doom would hand Valeria over to be tortured by demons so he can improve the world the Doom way?

Oh no, that's something that only Tim and Mark Waid would think a great hero like Doom would ever actually do.

Courtney said...

There's no way I'm paying for a shit comic like this. Hell I don't even have enough money for the comics I actually want.
I've been searching for a job for most of this year and then when I do get a job it usually only lasts a few weeks.

I tend to support independant creations, be it movies, comics, music ect.
But Marvel makes infinitley more money than I do, I'm sure they won't miss $3. Especially not since I own a couple of dozen of their comics, movies and action figures.

So what if I've downloaded thousands of dollars worth of media? How can you single me out when everyone else is doing it? You can't stop it.

I have no problem with stealing, I used to shop-lift all the time as a kid. Difference is now days I can just steal without leaving my home.

...Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me...

vichussmith said...

Why aren't your jobs more permanent? You getting fired constantly or something? I would hate to be a teenager looking for a job again. I never wanted to do any sort of work with customers. I worked for non-profit door to door jobs just so I didn't have to work at McDonald's or a drug store. I don't hate the type of job, just the volume of customers coming in and out.

Have you tried working at a museum? You have one close by or worth a commute?

Oh, and when you got caught shoplifting, did you blame it on an aborigone? (CALLBACK!)

Courtney said...

You're assuming I ever got caught stealing.

Fired? Who am I, JD? No the reason my jobs don't last that long is that they are either Xmas casual positions, costume assistant with theatre productions or commissions.

I don't know why it's so hard to find a freaking job around here, I must have submitted a resume to every store in this town. All I need is something part-time so I have a bit of money for my costumes.
...And all the comics and action figures and DVDs, but those come second.

I hate relying on my parents to pay for everything. I'm 18, I should be a little more independant than that.
I'm still on my L plates too, so I'm completely dependant on them, which makes me feel guilty. Christian guilt in an atheist, how ironic.

So yeah, those are all the problems in my life right now.
Oh and the fact that I'm trying to get into the costume design course at the West Australian Academy of Performing Arts again because I wasn't accepted last year.
I honestly don't know what I will do if I don't get in, costumes are my life.
But I've spent this year just focusing on improving my skills, I think I'm ready this time.

The WA Museum has a fashion exhibition on right now, how about that?
But no, they aren't looking for people. Especially not someone like me. It's mostly security jobs.

vichussmith said...

When college was over for me, being at home with my parents felt like acid on my skin.

You're probably doing like I did when I was looking for a job and you're looking for jobs you are actually qualified for. :)

Do you search online for jobs or do you just hit stores and see if they're hiring?

Courtney said...

Online, in store, through friends, believe me, I've done it all.

I'm not being that fussy, I tend to stick to retail, especially clothing, jewellery, costumes and art supply stores.
I mean I could probably get a job in a fast food joint or as a secretary tomorrow, but I know I'd hate it.

vichussmith said...

I don't know about Australia, but job hunting is not cool over here right now. As a guy who's basically freelance, I'm glad that I don't have to put on a suit and beg an employer to see me.

XantesFire said...

Oh no, that's something that only Tim and Mark Waid would think a great hero like Doom would ever actually do.

Okay, but do you think Doom was in character in that What If... story?

Courtney-Have you tried bartending?
Or this

Courtney said...

Bartending? Lol, I'm 18 dude!

XantesFire said...

Yeah, isn't the suggested drinking age in Australia 18? Don't they like hiring cute young female bartenders in Australia, too?

Courtney said...

Not 'suggested', it's the legal drinking age. But they don't hire under 21's in bars, that would be ridiculous.
They don't do that over there do they?

vichussmith said...

They've hired 14 year old strippers in Rhode Island because it's legal. Never underestimate the American drive (for making money)!

XantesFire said...

Nope, as soon as you can drink you can serve. Younger if your parents own the place.

Courtney said...

That's crazy, so you basically have children serving you drinks.
Granted most teenagers seem to be intent on trying anything that has alcohol in it, science knows why.
So they'd be experts.
I however wouldn't know gin from vodka.

XantesFire said...

So what if a child serves you your drink? As long as they don't spit in it or have their fingers in the cup, I'm okay.

As far as I know it's only recent in human history that children are by law barred from serving drinks. And I think that was done because of the fear of children being in the presence of drunks, not they were drinking, if anyone was againts the children drinking while on the job, that'll probably be their bosses.

T Mafia said...

Okay, but do you think Doom was in character in that What If... story?

Yup. At least when it mattered. I mean, think of all the great things Doom can do for the world - cure every disease, feed every nation and so on...whereas Valeria...I dunno, maybe she swallows, but that's probably the extent of the excaptional services she provides mankind.

vichussmith said...

Oh, here's some reflections on Doom for Courtney to jill off to.